Thin light coats is the trick. 2) Banning of DNA has been resolved with IPA as substitute, sources have been provided. I use a magnetic stirring gizmo. You still need to be sure it is 99% pure however. I have used Ammonia to thin shellac with success. This method ensures the surface is thoroughly covered with shellac. I thinned the poly, and I cant believe how much easier it … By far the number one selling fuel for backpackers is called ISOPRO. So is it illegal to posses DNA or illegal to sell it to non-permitted persons? Or, as I do, you can mix your own. So when using thinned down blends like this, each coat will dry in under a minute, and the next coat can go on right … Guess that explains why L.V. Most stores are sold out. If you want regulated materials at home, it can happen. 1 2
After each drop, make sure to shake it … They exist, if you look around the web. Problem is 99.9% technical grade (or 200 proof) is only sold at laboratory supply, and 95% pure grade called 190 proof grain alcohol is hard to find at many liqueur stores. I know that logic would suggest that if one is illegal, so is the other. When starting out, you may want to stick with darker shellacs on darker woods (use garnet to spice up kiln-dried walnut) and lighter shellacs on light woods (blonde flakes add a hint of color to maple), but as you’ll soon discover, shellac can serve as an effective dye toner. It looks like I can’t get that Mohawk stuff either. Latest Projects |
Wood finishing folks are not only people having issues. It has too much water in it, and prevent absorption of shellac into wood. :). Refer to the chart below for thinning directions. Fry s Electronics sells quarts. Everyone who moved away from California to their utopia gimme a break all states have stupid rules and laws. Level sand if required. Maybe a little less if you have a free source for damaged fruit (apples, peaches, pears, anything with high sugar content). Latest Forum Topics, http://www.kleanstrip.com/product/green-denatured-alcohol, https://www.mohawk-finishing.com/mhk_cds/product_msds/M650-0057.pdf, https://www.calrecycle.ca.gov/SWFacilities/Permitting/CEQA/, https://www.amazon.com/Laboratory-Grade-Denatured-Ethyl-Alcohol-95/dp/B07Q23H8P4, http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/, https://www.amazon.com/Isopropyl-Alcohol-Grade-Anhydrous-gallon/dp/B01MEGQ9Q0, Stumpy Nubs Woodworking Journal- For woodworkers of all levels (part 6). Need to carefully check the MSDS/SDS on denatured alcohol (DNA) when you buy it.Methanol alcohol is cheaper, and many home store brands use 40%+ methanol. The challenge is paperwork, and costs of permitted waste disposal. They should rename them as a law free zone. We all know that sh!+ isn’t allowed in the state of California because it is a known carcinogen in .000013% of the wooly bearded jellyfish that migrate past the state every 18th year in November. May be applied at container consistency if desired. With the use of eye dropper, add small amount of gel polish thinner into the bottle of the gel polish. Problem is 99.9% technical grade (or 200 proof) is only sold at laboratory supply, and 95% pure grade called 190 proof grain alcohol is hard to find at many liqueur stores. I have used both brands interchangeably without a second thought. The best way though is to spray it if you can. Best solvent for shellac is and always has been ethanol alcohol, not methanol alcohol. 1) Find an online lab supply that does not require CalEPA or federal EPA permit numbers for small quantity chemical shipments, and order tech grade solvents. Because of its innate consistency, thinning water-based polyurethane is not usually necessary. Practice nail care at home. Violations can result in massive fines, and even jail time after lengthy legal trial. You can thin the shellac by adding solvent; this will make it easier to lay down the shellac. Hmm… $12 a quart though. We just don’t know which half! Or will they continue to carry it, only time will tell. is back ordered on there Shellac thinner? So, the long and short of it guys is that anything over 151 proof (75%) and anything that is “denatured alcohol” no matter how they label it, is not available to the general consumer here. FWIW – Besides medical supplies, Tech grade Isopropanol is sold at electronics stores as cleaning agent. Unfortunately, my short list of options seems to be…1) get it from another state on the rare occasions I am traveling out of state2) distill my own (actually a LEGAL possibility with a federal alternative fuels permit but probably WAY too much trouble than it’s worth)3) try and get some via a licensed third-party. I always spray shellac (sometimes all over me, but that's another story). How To Thin A Thickened Nail Polish. Nothing ‘Anecdotal’ about suggested alternatives, sources offered, or how to use regulated solvents in CA?Color me insulted. Don’t get me started… I really don’t want this to turn into a political thread though, but I hear you. You take pure alcohol and intentionally add poison to it all in the name of taxation. They had DNA, so I bought 2 gallons. But then so are you once the solvents have completely evaporated. At least three to four layers of … The extreme of “this and everything else is known by the experts of the state of California to cause the moon to explode” aside, it sounds like time to set up a still, and to make some fellow shellac fan friends. Maybe if you are not willing to try alternate sources? Manage Consent. PPS – Knowing your alcohols is important when you hang around with a bunch of chemical engineers that serve ethanol blended drinks are parties. Spray it, thats the easiest way to work with Shellac that I've found. Use denatured alcohol to thin shellac; use alcohol or ammonia for cleanup. What happens is the cost of storage, usage, air discharge, and disposal, gets so high; you can’t afford to use them unless there is absolutely no other choice on planet. Avoid placing the pad directly down onto the wood and rubbing. Some really small folks are allowed to use standard solid waste (hehe). But the standard stuff works for diluting premixed shellac, as it also has a blend of solvents. Note: I am not suggesting you break EPA laws. Many shades of shellac. Making shellac is a simple process whereby we dissolve flakes of shellac we buy in crunchy flake form into 190 proof denatured alcohol, which we either buy through license here in the UK or we use Methylated spirits, which is denatured alcohol with an added violet colouring and any of a number of other additives that make the Meths undrinkable and even poisonous … In other words, you purchasing it out of state and bringing it back home may be perfectly legal. SOL? Common Finishes That Might Need to Be Thinned The traditional finishes include lacquer, shellac, oil-based polyurethane, and oil-based varnish. Most suppliers require shipments to be delivered to permit holders address, so don’t try to ship stuff home on corporate permit. lbs of permitted solvent per year, the requirements are lower and within reach of individual. If you don’t want to add anything to the bottle a great alternative for thinning it out is to run the bottle under hot water or close it well and place in a bowl of hot water for just a few seconds. Does anybody know if you can thin down shellac?for example the white,as it has gone quite thick. I’m guessing some smaller shops probably still have some in stock. Multiple thin coats of shellac are more effective than backpacking stoves use either: - sealed canisters filled with butane/propane- white gas- unleaded gas. Another issue is due alcohol consumption taxes, it is most expensive shellac solvent to procure....- CaptainKlutz. Store your shellac, tightly stoppered or sealed, in a cool dark location. It is only banned for sale to individuals who do not possess proper permits.Which means average homeowner can’t get it from hardware store any more. Shrug…. :(. I see that my local LOWES still sells DNA, though. Another issue is due alcohol consumption taxes, it is most expensive shellac solvent to procure. The technique is to add mineral oil to shellac in a ratio of 25 percent oil to 75 percent shellac. Step 1 Pour half of the lacquer into a clean gallon can. I thought it was DNA, but could be something else. August 30, 2010 in Finishing. When mixing shellac from flakes or buttons, you can scale down the ratio of cut to make a suitable amount. After that you can just apply a a regular coat of the amber. But it costs anywhere from $750 to $1000 to have a single 55 gal drum of combustible waste hauled away and disposed of by licensed HAZMAT processor. Here is Kleen strip DNA ingredients, with 50-55% methanol:.Here is Crown DNA, it shows 70-75% methanol alcohol:..Here is the green low VOC ingredient list, with 3-7% methanol:.BTW – the ethyl acetate and or MIBK is used as stabilizer. Denatured alcohol is not available in Canada either. So unless home is permitted facility, is it technically banned. Sorry, but this statement is NOT always true in today’s greedy low VOC EPA mandated world? If I have to make my own moonshine so be it. Agree on the denatured alcohol for thinning, works well. What ya bring in, ya gotta carry, that is the rule. drug making, explosive making, etc). I can re-coat in an hour or so or … This technique works only when padding on the shellac, much like one would do when French polishing. Just have to read, and follow the rules. Kind of sucks that I have to sit in traffic for 2 hours in pothole filled roads past gross polluting factory farms, get out of my car and then walk over 35 typhus infested homeless tents to get to the hardware store just to find out that the priority was outlawing rubbing alcohol. Never tried it...........like anything in woodworking/finishing applying shellac by hand takes practice. If you want to find a list of permit holders in your area, it is on the CalEPA site. That’s just silly pine chopper. .... so in other words…. Often we go to take that nail polish that we like so much and are find that it has dried slightly or has become thickened. It’s all part of the craft When the gets narrowed you just play the hand your dealt.I don’t think I’d try Ammonia it’s too nasty. Definitely worth a try. Great question. I do love a good excuse to drive to the bay area and visit Fry’s. In about an hour it mixes the shellac completely. The idea here is to overall keep it thin, while also laying down coats than can be built up. The instructions on the can will indicate that you can apply a water-based clear coat right over an oil-based stain if the stain has thoroughly cured. I know the pest is a flea, flee market was what I wanted to do the one time I was dragged to one out there. BTW – will Amazon ship lab grade DNA to CA?https://www.amazon.com/Laboratory-Grade-Denatured-Ethyl-Alcohol-95/dp/B07Q23H8P4. Paste as plain text instead, × In our shop the coolest place, outside the fridge, in hot weather is on the cement slab under the bench. BTDTGTTS- Small companies have more lenient permits due lower usage volumes. Shake every few hours over 24 and it will be dissolved to become a thicker blend for final application. You also thin liquid shellac with alcohol. And then there’s the subject of mixing up a batch of aniline dye… I prefer alcohol to water but at least water is a viable option here. Sand the table by hand with 220-grit sandpaper when the sanding sealer dries, usually about 30 minutes. It may be for some, but not for me. I have noticed when I have ordered certain “hazardous materials” from Amazon, they will have a disclaimer stating something to the effect this item cannot be shipped to all zip codes in Ca. Work the pad in gentle, irregular patterns rather than only going with the grain. Also was probably going to use it for some plywood garage cabinets. I went to lowe’s in Redding Ca today for other reasons, but I thought I would check on the DNA situation. OK well thanks for all the input guys, but the picture is still muddy… extremely unclear. Ooh, that I will try; never thought of that. Thank You x . That works, too. I have a pretty new quart of it, but will need to find something eventually. I have zero connections here.4) try and get some of that stuff at Fry’s or another electronics supply house, but again, a lot of trouble to go through and pretty darn expensive5) try and find something at a farm/feed supply store. Would the highest % isopropyl I can buy at the drug store work ok for that? The only reason to thin a water based stainer is to slow the application time down. Even if any streaks or lap marks show after sanding, the final top coat will get rid of that. Shellac is sold in a variety of different colors. Can you get it shipped to CA from online source? cut would be 5 lb. :lol: :lol: :lol: Bulls eye makes a thinned version of the amber to apply as a first coat. I like shellac just because it is super easy to work with. You can, of course, easily thin down a thick shellac. javajake, Redding also has a Home Depot, so out of curiosity I went there to see what they had. You do not have the tack problems with it. Rating: 4.5 (23 votes) By Mary Smith. Maybe I can just find a local shop who can legally mix their own to sell me some pre-mixed shellac. I like how it looks over dyed figured wood and really like the amber over torched pine. When the shellac is drying too fast due to heat, low humidity, or excessive airflow, add just enough shellac retarder to enable easy application and flow-out. Some people prefer to pulverize their shellac with a grinder used for coffee beans. If you want to use DNA banned for personal use at home, you have to either follow EPA law and get a permit, or skirt around the laws one of several ways already mentioned. I know of many amateur pyro’s in CA, that have permit covering back yard area with picnic table for making stuff, with a small storage shed full of regulated materials next to it. So it isn’t a good idea to use methanol unless you are working with a good exhaust. You can post now and register later. Copyright 2020 The Wood Whisperer, Inc. Methanol works fine for thinning shellac, but it is quite toxic if you are around it for a long time breathing the vapors. Are they just selling out what they have? I am a fan of the thin it way down and slop on multiple coats with a brush method. I’m SOL??? DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. Shellac is about right. This $30 gadget allows me to pour the ingredients in a plastic beaker, drop in a magnetic stirbar and walk away. Try making pyrotechnic devices in Peoples Republic of Kalifornia.You have no idea the complexity of EPA laws until you make something that goes boom, shipping weight of 50lbs, and it is full of various poisons.
That level of efficient heat has never been had by other compounds. I have not experimented with other oils like BLO but Tru Oil is basically that. Due I think to population density. 2) Find a permitted facility and use their permits to cover your activity. I am using some amber shellac on a vanity, and having a hard time getting a good finish because it tacks up so quickly. As I said before, there are small volume exemptions (shipping) for lab grade materials, and these might allow supplier to ship a locally banned solvent to your door without raising any concern for contents. Wipe the wax off immediately, before it dries, to maintain a flat finish. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way. In general a "2 Pound Cut" is a good place to start. After looking at SDS of big box brands like kleenstrip, seems like vodka has about the same %. What is all the trouble? It would be a lot cheaper to mix my own I guess. . As an aside, I usually buy an aerosol can of shellac for quick touch ups and small projects. LOL. Yes, I am being specific on definition for a reason.If you have a valid CalEPA permit, you can but most any solvent including alcohol.Getting a permit is royal PIA: https://www.calrecycle.ca.gov/SWFacilities/Permitting/CEQA/, But if your use is less than XX (100?) I thinned the poly, and I can't believe how much easier it was to get a good finish with that. Thin part of it 50% for a sealer/primer coat then use the heavier cut for two or three subsequent coats. You want it thin enough to flow well from the brush, but thick enough to resist sagging and running. You cannot paste images directly. 72 replies. For best application results thin shellac before using. So to reduce the cost, which is largely the result of taxes, some methanol is often added to make the … What do climbers and hikers burn in their cook stoves? × It’s 190 proof (95% alcohol) where DNA is Ethanol (pure alcohol) with additives to make it non-potable. I have used it for both brushing and French polishing and find it excellent. Hughes Co., Inc. has a bunch of CA stores and sells the TechSpray brand of 99% IPA as flux cleaner.Green Products in Richmond, CA sells if for cleaning: https://greenproductsco.net/NuGenTec MAKES IPA in Emeryville, CA near Oakland? That puts a quart of thinned Zinsser at about $75 to $100 a gallon or so? Find one or maybe try an Ace or True Value Hardware store and get some while you can. Most commercial stove fuel is denatured alcohol. That appears to just be DNA with butanol added. geeg Judge Gigi-Honorary Geek. :-), How do I know this? ©2021 Verticalscope Inc. All Rights Reserved. Your link has been automatically embedded. I’ve come across many professional finishers, however, who believe they should be using shellac rather than the finish itself, a sanding sealer, vinyl sealer or a catalyzed sealer for a first coat. To begin applying shellac, quickly ease the pad on and off the surface to avoid any blotchy spots. While possible, distillation is not going to be a cheaper solution. DNA is kind of an irresponsible product to begin with if you ask me. Merely an effort stating how to execute or perform a certain task" . I just don’t think all the trouble is worth it. What do you use shellac for? In AZ, anything to slow evaporation is a bonus. I like how it looks over dyed figured wood and really like the amber over torched pine. Don’t think that thought hasn’t crossed my mind… lol. Anyone attempting to spray paint cars from home shop has similar ‘banned’ solvent issues. Should I just live with Zinsser at full-strength (don’t really want to do that) or switch to another easy-ish finish like wipe-on poly? Not worth setting up the HVLP for that (uhg, I hate cleaning it). Recoat as required until you’re happy with the finished look. Slows Shellac Drying, helps to eliminate brush marks, promotes a smooth surface, and minimizes orange-peel or over-spray when spraying. The problem with using ethanol for dissolving and thinning shellac is that it’s quite expensive (think Everclear that you buy at the liquor store). If you wipe and get streaks at all, remember that you can sand it nicely to a glass smooth surface with P400. . OK, I’ve had a gallon of DNA for a some number of months, but haven’t been into a hardware store in the last 5 weeks because of foot surgery. Anecdotal suggestions of things to try are not helpful, they only further cloud the issue. Lower the shellac sheen to matte by rubbing lightly with #0000 steel wool and paste wax. Even the small pods will burn long enough to cook for 2 or 3 people for a week. Make sure that you stir the mixture thoroughly to dissolve the shellac. 1) DNA can still be found on shelf in some CA home stores and will be until they sell out. It has been a banned substance here far longer than DNA. There are a bazillion feed stores around me here in the heart of Central California. Step 2 Pour 1 pint of lacquer thinner into the can and mix it in with a flat stick. You could not be more wrong! Is labeling the difference between being able to sell the DNA in Ca.? Would thinning it make it easier or harder to get a coat on before it tacks up? Maybe I should just stock up. For small areas, Tru Oil is nice for finishing guitars and decorative fronts of guitar amps. For a quick, thin, matte finish, flood the wood with shellac, then wipe off the excess while it’s still wet. If the online information regarding Isopropyl is fuzzy, then buy some and try it (on scrap, not on a project). The best source I have found for large volumes (gallons) has been feed stores who sell it as horse liniment.Methanol is faster than ethanol and totally useless. — Bob Flexner. Re: Thinning Shellac My experience with shellac flakes dissolved in isopropynol is exremely fast drying versus methyl. That s just silly pine chopper. http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/. Display as a link instead, × The exact ratio of alcohol to flakes (referred to as the pound-cut) isn’t critical. That’s $15-25 per quart of ethanol, Plus cost of pot still, cooling water, cooking fuel, AND felony charge/fines for producing alcohol illegally for sale to friends. |
OK so what if all I really wanted to do is thin out the cans of Zinsser and not mix my own? :-(0). This is similar to what I pay for Kleen Strip Green DNA I use for thinning shellac?https://www.amazon.com/Isopropyl-Alcohol-Grade-Anhydrous-gallon/dp/B01MEGQ9Q0Gallons sell for $28- $30. Did you try to find any?R.S. Just note that most of the shellacs you get are 3 or 4 pound cuts. Note that if you do this: technically you are required to recycle any solvent contaminated waste materials via permit requirements. It’s all about controlling and taxing how environment is contaminated, not stopping it.Materials are never really ‘banned’. Again, way too much trouble. Premixed shellac sprays have a shelf life - avoid any with a manufactured date over 1 year, or mix your own from flakes; A shellac finish is much easier to repair than other finishes (rub out, reapply a thin coat, sand flat, polish) Saw Mill Creek user Todd Burch has this to say: I've sprayed a lot of shellac. 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